Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby nightcrawler » Sun Jul 31, 2016 3:13 pm

Hi smootharnie,
All in all we can say that i m swimming disgustingly, right? :D
Once something goes into motion, it stays in motion, the process itself feeds the fire!
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby smootharnie » Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:02 pm

Anyway, we cant really call your no kick swimming really no kick swimming.
There is always some kick happening , be it 2 legs together as a small dolphin or a very subtle 2BK.<
How it all precisely helps propulsion is still hard to pinpoint exactly, but I think it is better than holding your body totally motionless and straight like the female modelswimmer is doing.
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby nightcrawler » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:10 am

One thing shouldnt be missed, the goal is not swimming with no kick, the goal is using the big muscles (hamstrings, quadriceps) less for decreasing the energy consumption, because big muscles consume more energy, the ratio of the work done/energy consumption by the big muscles is decreasing dramatically in the longer distances, Keeping the energy helps to accelerate in the following meters of an open water race.

And moreover, while trying these i have seen also that pace is not so much effected by the kicking action.

Here is my pace chart with and without kicking, these are some trials in good form i made in 2016, all are measured from water start after the training sessions:
Distance-PaceWithKicking-PaceWithoutKicking-Deviation-AvgHRs
050m 00:30 00:34 13% 195 188
100m 01:06 01:12 9% 189 176
200m 02:25 02:33 5% 173 161
400m 05:11 05:16 2% 154 145
800m 10:32 10:38 1% 142 136

Conclusion: It worths limiting the legs.
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby nightcrawler » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:57 am

01.08.2016 (SCM, 2500m)
Set1: 12x75m crawl int:80" (avg:62", best:61)
Set2: 1x800m crawl pullbuoy+paddles (10:52)
Set3: 1x800m crawl 2 left arm 2 right arm drill (13:14)
Notes: 800m crawl with paddles+pullbuoy was exactly the same with the yesterday's, strange.
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby nightcrawler » Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:36 am

smootharnie wrote:hey Nightcrawler. Found a swimbench which allows rotation! (only without the girl, you cant have it all)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTLFw-mn6ps


Thanks, but arent there any promotion like 1+1? :D
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby nightcrawler » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:50 am

02.08.2016 (SCM, 3000m)
Set1: 20x75m crawl (with paddles) int:80" (avg:62", best:61")
Set2: 30x50m crawl (with paddles) int:55" (avg:39", best:38")

Notes: i had pain in the heart during the sets, it was hard to maintain the paces. I think this is because of the asthma treatment pills and inhalers, these are making some effects on my metabolism.
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby Shenaram » Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:20 am

nightcrawler wrote:02.08.2016 (SCM, 3000m)
Notes: i had pain in the heart during the sets, it was hard to maintain the paces. I think this is because of the asthma treatment pills and inhalers, these are making some effects on my metabolism.


I admire your training scheme and determination.
Pain in the heart may not be trivial. Please take care.

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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby nightcrawler » Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:54 pm

Thanks Shenaram.
This is the 4 th day of my giving up smoking, i am still coughing a bit and there is itch in my throat. Since then have been trying to sleep sufficiently and eating healthy food.

I had said before, when someone is at the very bottom the only side for him to go is the up, this is the reborn of Nightcrawler! Everything will be fine soon, i believe in myself.
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby Shenaram » Tue Aug 02, 2016 4:37 pm

The Turkish phoenix.
Reborn from (tobacco) ashes.

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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby nightcrawler » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:46 am

Shenaram wrote:The Turkish phoenix.
Reborn from (tobacco) ashes.

Yes, exactly the same :D
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/73 ... c00fa0.jpg
In mythology, a phoenix is a long-lived bird that is cyclically regenerated or reborn. Associated with the sun, a phoenix obtains new life by arising from the ashes of its predecessor. According to some sources, the phoenix dies in a show of flames and combustion, although there are other sources that claim that the legendary bird dies and simply decomposes before being born again.
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03.08.2016 (SCM, 3000m)
Set1: 20x75m crawl (with paddles) int:75" (avg:59", best:55")
Set2: 30x50m crawl (with paddles) int:50" (avg:38", best:36")
Notes: today i swam the yesterday's sets but with less interval periods, and also paces were better than yesterday. This was my day! 8-)
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby nightcrawler » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:49 am

04.08.2016 (SCM, 2800m)
Set1: 16x75m crawl int:80" (avg:63", best:61")
Recovery: 100 easy
Set2: 18x50m crawl int:55" (avg:40", best:39")
Recovery: 100 easy
Set3: 20x25m crawl with ankle bands int:30" (avg:19", best:18")
Notes: today i had gripes on my neck, hardly concentrated on swimming, need thai massage :D
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby nightcrawler » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:33 am

05.08.2016 Morning session 0 m.

Almost for a week i havent been smoking, feeling really better. Drinking kefir(caucasian based milk product, but i prepare it myself), sleeping well, eating healthier food, trying not to mind anything, concentrating on swimming, watching videos, reading articles(especially cottmiler's) :D

Yersterday, after another mandatory democracy duty, ordered by the president, in the city center on the streets, avenues till the late hours, i couldnt wake up at 5 am for the training session, this is everyday but i can go only 2-3 days a week due to my suburbian location. I am going to do the session in the afternoon. This is the reality of my country. In these circumstances i am trying to do my best as to swimming...

I wish i would live in Canada or Australia. I m civil engineer(b.sc) and computer engineer(m.sc), working as a software project manager. Have the intention of finding a job in Australia or Canada and migrate.
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby nightcrawler » Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:20 pm

05.08.2016 (SCM, 3300m)
Set1: 20x75m crawl int:75" (avg:63", best:61")
Recovery: 150 easy
Set2: 20x50m crawl int:50" (avg:40", best:38")
Recovery: 150 easy
Set3: 20x25m crawl int:25" (avg:19", best:18")
Notes: today i started to do the sets woth tighter intervals. Pace is around 1:24/100m now, not so satisfactory, but i hope soon it will be sub 1:20/100m
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby nightcrawler » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:32 am

06.08.2016 (SCM, 2500m)
Drill: 50x25m various doggy paddle drills R:15"
Set1: 8x25m crawl int:35" (avg:18", best:17")
Recovery: 100 easy
Set2: 8x50m crawl int:70" (avg:38", best:36")
Recovery: 100 easy
Set3: 8x75m crawl int:100" (avg:58", best:54")
Recovery: 100 easy
Notes: today i swam with my students in my swim clinic, interval periods were according to their level, but it was also facilitated me to reach higher speeds. After the session we took underwater footages with go-pro. I will publish them on youtube soon.
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby cottmiler » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:35 am

We look forward to that.
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby nightcrawler » Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:16 pm

Once something goes into motion, it stays in motion, the process itself feeds the fire!
Ref: http://self-inspiration.com/video/uncomfortable-vs-exhaustion

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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby smootharnie » Sun Aug 07, 2016 10:48 pm

NIce streamlined and high legs! And an unexpected little crossover kick.
Pretty personal stroke, also with the bend wrist and the personal style underwater arm action.
its hard for me to swim along mentally because I dont have such a crossover kick. Cant imagine how it feels, only can see it has something to do with a counterbalance to the entry of the arm.
Tried to do it on purpose but it didnt came naturally.

How fast is your fastest student from the guys shown here?
And should we guess who it is?
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby nightcrawler » Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:37 am

07.08.2016-off

08.08.2016 (LCM, 2200m)
Set1: 20x75m crawl int:75" (avg:63", best:61")
Recovery: 100 easy
Set2: 10x50m crawl int:50" (avg:40", best:38")
Recovery: 100

Smootharnie,
I have 3-4 levels of swimmers in my squad. Swimming around 2:00, 1:50, 1:40, 1:35 per 100m pace. My best student is 22 years old, he is swimming 12:30 800m, has quote low stroke frequency. Here is his footage:
https://youtu.be/OoQWwQDJiro
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby cottmiler » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:32 am

I have a couple of observations:

1) I think some students would struggle if swimming with an ankle band. Is this true?

2) Seeing your own stroke nightcrawler, made me realise that for anyone, the stroke cadence and body roll are inversely related. This suggests that it might be a good idea to make one's mind up whether to stick with low cadence, high body roll or go for high cadence and flatter body.

I wondered a while ago which style would be best for either a surfboard shaped body or a penguin shaped body?
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Re: Nightcrawler's 2016 Season

Postby smootharnie » Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:44 am

yeah, the same with the difference between your best student and your own stroke,
You have more the surfboard style with a rotating light pressure on the arms stroke (not a real digging-in high elbow with a lot of reach) and the other guy is more toward the Sun Yang Mack Horton style.

What I find intersting is that this good arm anchoring, more pause and a kick that has more kneebend go together in this strokestyle.
Yours is more like David Davies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8DSNeNMc6w

both styles survive in their own right, so which people are better suited for one style and which ones for the other style?
I like the high ref style principle, but have +3 ape index so have to swim very fast(for my skill level) to get a high strokerate.
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