A long stroke can work

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A long stroke can work

Postby smootharnie » Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:49 am

Never thought Mack Horton could win.
Seems he is beating Sun in his own speciallty. Their strokes look pretty simular now. A very long buildup for Horton to build enough strength to hold this style of stroke together, or is it just a type of stroke that can work for some?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=690pgWmvyZw
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Re: A long stroke can work

Postby Tom65 » Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:15 am

Mack appears to me to get a good long breath in to ?
The Bronte sisters had been working on short breaths in recent times, although that may have just been for the sprint to the end.
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Re: A long stroke can work

Postby The Dodo » Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:55 am

Was interested to see what was going on in the "slo-mo" side-view circa time 0:10-0:18 in Mack's clip. He inhaled to his right, and when the right arm entered after recovery there was quite a time lag before he kicked down strongly with the leg on that right side (just as he had reached a nice high elbow catch), but the kick with his left leg, which one would expect after the right arm entry, looked very weak by comparison with the right leg kick. Was that a suspicion of a dropped elbow with his left arm at 0:05, although the palm was backward-facing OK? Do you reckon this kicking more strongly on the inhalation side is intentional - to overcome any "hiccup" (or loss of concentrated power) caused by turning the head to inhale on that side?

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Re: A long stroke can work

Postby cottmiler » Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:14 am

These swimmers mostly breathe on one side only, with the loping stroke.

Here you can see that MH pulls hard with the right arm and turns his body through almost 90 degrees so that it is vertical in the water whilst he breathes with a raised head. The head position must cause drag but is a necessity.

When he pulls with the left arm his body seems almost flat in the water.

This must be the most efficient stroke style.
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Re: A long stroke can work

Postby cottmiler » Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:45 am

My post above is incorrect because later in the video, you can see he does actually have a lot of body roll both sides.

The relatively slow cadence enables the large amount of roll.
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Re: A long stroke can work

Postby smootharnie » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:27 pm

The side underwater footage is already quite old and is already shown and discussed in this thread
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2349
Dont know if his front footage is recent.

Cant really call Jarrod Poort a swinger here. His stroke looks like a smooth from under water.
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